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Questions from Public Consultation Attendees
INDEX
Management
Technical
Fees
A MANAGEMENT
AQ1 Y2K Government Legislation
AQ1 Is the Federal Government legislation in already?
AA1 Not yet but we have been informed that the Act will be legislated when parliament resumes in
February. Here is a copy of the notice
AQ2 Government Funding of OICY2KRAMP
AQ2 Have you approached Federal Government with OICY2KRAMP for any endorsement?
AA2 No, as yet not for endorsement, but we have submitted an application for funding with the
Senator ALSTON's Department of Communications Information Technology and the Arts
(DCITA) as part of the On-line Information Technology On-line (ITOL) programme
AQ3 Definition of Y2K Compliance
AQ3 Do you have a definition of Y2K compliance ?
AA3 We use the definition as provided by the Standards Australia http://www.y2kregister.com.au
AQ4 Liability for actions
AQ4 Is the OIC going to be liable (responsible) for its actions ?
AA4 OICY2KRAMP PTY LTD is licensing a process to administer Y2K Compliance checking and remediation. Included in this process is access to the list of Y2K products 14/01/99 that can be selected from a list of the products on the Standards Australia Y2K Compliancy Tools Web site. According to the Federal Government media release dated 17/12/98 on the pending legislation "Under the legislation, which will closely parallel the recent US "Good Samaritan" legislation, liability will not be generally removed if a product or service fails as a result of Y2K service failure, but the disclosure statement could not be used as evidence in any subsequent action".
AQ5 Legal Implications
AQ5 What are the legal implications ?
AA5 OICY2KRAMP is a process to record Due Diligence for Y2K checking and remediation has been initiated and is continuing. It is not a product to check or remediate Y2K problems. As we understand the pending Y2K Good Samaritan legislation will require organisations to show their trading partners that some form of Y2K checking and remediation has taken place and is continuing to take place. This Public Consultation and Review is for you to inform OICY2KCC if you consider the process satisfactory or if requires enhancements.
AQ6 Liability for endorsing 3rd party products
AQ6 Are we going to be liable for any endorsement of a third party product ?
AA6 The OIC, OICY2KCC and the OICY2KRAMP project team are not and will not be endorsing any
third party products. OICY2KRAMP is a process that records the results of third party products.
The OICY2KCC is negotiating with Y2K check and remediation software suppliers special rates for OIC members. (see OIC Software Supplier Form )
AQ7 Viewing information as non-member OICY2KRAMP
AQ7 Can you see the system on the site without subscribing as a member of the OIC (i.e. will there be a dummy model) ?
AA7 OICY2KRAMP is a process that includes a software system that monitors Y2K Checking and Remediation progress. This software system automatically updates a Web site which can be viewed electronically. This process can only be licensed by members of the OIC. This is because it is an evolving process that will be continually refined as Y2K on-going compliancy issues for Desktop Computing become better understood. However a non-member will be able to view the information provided a trading partner provides them with the access password.
AQ8 Viewing activities of trading partner
AQ8 Would we be able to view the activities of a trading partner of ours if we are not OIC members ?
AA8 Yes if your trading partner who uses OICY2KRAMP provides you with the password to view its
OICY2KRAMP web page
AQ9 Current Users OICY2KRAMP.
AQ9 How many people are using RAMP at present ?
AA9 OICY2KRAMP has been developed as a result with working with 5 organisations who are members of the OIC. As at 20/01/99 OICY2KRAMP has not been installed in its entirety with a Web-site. This is a public consultation and review to evaluate the process before it is released via a seminar, workshop and training programme.
AQ10 Are you too late ?
AQ10 Why did you start the RAMP process now (aren't you too late) ?
AA10 We developed the process as a result of carrying out Y2K Checking and Remediation among members of the OIC. OICY2KRAMP as a process has taken about 12 months to develop and specify. Although many may consider it is too late, we do not believe it is too late for the SME sector. Many SMEs are not aware yet of the importance of Y2K compliance for business trading partners. We consider a process is better than no process even at this very late stage. We agree that this is a critical time for action.
C TECHNICAL
CQ1 Will SMEs require compliant systems
CQ1 Some SME's will not require compliant systems, eg they have Excel but do not use it so what are
you going to do about them ?
CA1 Who is going to go through each file and decide what is being used and what is not being used ?
We are providing the process for any SME to be able to provide evidence that, whatever they
use, a due diligence process has been followed to check and remediate the Y2K problem. The
process uses checking software to check application and custom-written software.
CQ2 Adverse comments about Y2K products.
CQ2 Are you going to criticise any `ineffective' Y2K tools ?
CA2 No we may point out the management issues that have to be considered with any Y2K checking
and remediation product
CQ3 How effective is the process.
CQ3 How effective is the process going to be ?
CA3 This is what we are asking you to evaluate at this Public Consultation with the understanding that
submitted comments and feedback will enhance the process. This process has been developed to
endeavour to ensure that every level of Y2K Checking has taken place. As a result of this Public
Consultations we believe this process will be recognised as very effective.
CQ4 False information.
CQ4 What's to stop the end-user submitting false information ?
CA4 There are 3 safeguards:
- OICY2KRAMP is monthly an on-going process - hence information would be checked
and validated each month - any anomalies will be highlighted in the Host reports
- An OICY2KRAMP consultant is allocated to each OICY2KRAMP member. The
consultants responsibility will include ensuring that the information entered into the system is accurate. These consultants will visit each member as a mentor at least once. The OICY2KRAMP consultant will be responsible for the accuracy of the data input.
- It has been proposed that part of the licence agreement will include a section that states a phrase along the lines "The input of false information to obtain a OICY2K Due Diligence Certificate will render you as the OICY2KRAMP licencee liable in the event that your systems fail after 01/01/2000".
CQ5 Will asset register be effective without embedded chip assets ?
CQ5 how is an asset register going to be effective if it does not include embedded systems (which are
deemed to be assets) ?
CA5 The current members of OICY2KCC have focused on the Y2K issue for Desktop Computing not
on embedded chip problems. We would welcome other members who wish to tackle the
embedded chip problem. It only requires 3 members to establish a Specific Interest Group who wish to research and develop a solutions to problems like an effective asset register for the
embedded chip problem. I am sure the OICY2KRAMP system could be adapted once someone
has funded that phase of the project.
CQ6 What levels of date checking
CQ6 To what level does checking reach, i.e. multi-date ?
CA6 At the moment it is envisaged that there will be multiple dates for many of the compliancy
checking levels particularly User-Data remediation. The area of User Data Remediation requires
further research over the next 2 months to cover most of the issues. This is part of the on-going
research with this project hence the need to share experiences electronically.
CQ7 Is OICY2KRAMP usable in a network
CQ7 Is OICY2KRAMP networkable (i.e. could it be adapted as an asset register for an organisation
with multi-server applications) ?
CA7 No the software is a single user application which would be licensed to each site. The key issue
is the input of the data at a single location. The results would be available on the Internet.
CQ8 Sufficient options to cover all circumstances.
CQ8 How do you know you have enough options for feedback ?
CA8 That is the purpose of this public consultation to determine what other options may be required.
More detailed research on this will be carried out during Workshop sessions planned during
March 1999 and with beta-test site participants.
CQ9 Where is the identity of end user stored
CQ9 Where is the identity of the end user stored ?
CA9 Each OICY2KRAMP licence is allocated an identify code. This code is embedded in the licence
number and each file that is upload for Y2K check and remediation reports. Hence the identity is
at the local user end and at the OIC host site as part of the licence code.
CQ10 How effective is the asset register
CQ10 How effective will the asset register be and where will it be stored ?
CA10 These Public Consultations are to determine how effective the asset register is considered to be
by organisations that are familiar with Y2K problems. The asset register will be stored at the
end-user system and coded on the OIC Host system for billing on a per seat basis.
CQ11 Why should I show my position with Y2K Compliance
CQ11 Why should I show what my position is ?
CA11 Because we understand the legislation will encourage companies to reveal their position.
CQ12 How does OICY2KRAMP accommodate check and remediation slippage
CQ12 How does RAMP accommodate slippage in the remediation ?
CA12 The system does not need to cater for dates to complete projects. It is considered that the end-
user has the incentive to carry out the remediation as fast as possible without the need for a date.
As the reports will be uploaded automatically each month these reports will identify if there is a
problem attaining certain levels of remediation. This is when the OICY2KRAMP consultant will
call the member to see if they need any assistance.
CQ13 Input of data into OICY2KRAMP
CQ13 How do you input the data into OICY2KRAMP ?
CA13 There are 3 aspects of data input:
1 Creation of Asset Register
2 Recording output of Y2K checking software
3 Monitoring Remediation process
- Creation of Asset Register
At the moment this information has to be keyed after the survey has taken place. There are
proposals to transfer data from Asset Registers like MYOB but these are still under investigation
- Recording output of Y2K checking software
The OICY2KCC is currently investigating how many different Y2K Checking and Remediation
software packages there are. Although there are 60 or more contact names on Standards Australia Compliancy Tools register, the majority are distributors for products and not developers of Y2K products. During February discussions will be taking place with the developers to work out how the software output files can be linked into OICY2KRAMP. There will be time saving and accuracy benefits if this part of the process can be automated
- Monitoring Remediation process
We believe that the key issue for the Remediation process will be monitoring User Data that is not created by the end user ie Network Data Exchange (NDE) files. These files may be downloaded from the Internet, delivered by Electronic Commerce Value Added Networks
(VANS), transfered by LANS or WANS, uploaded from laptops or even from floppy disks. This area will identify which business trading partners and others who do not have Y2K Compliant software. As indicated before, NDE requires further monitoring to refine the process.
CQ14 Dependency on other reporting tools
CQ14 Are you dependant upon another report tool to analyse the checking ?
CA14 There are over 60 Checking and remediation contacts listed on the Standards Australia Y2K site. OICY2KRAMP is not a checking or remediation suite of software. It is
an administration system that has been designed to record the Y2K checking and remediation
reports for all those and any other product.
CQ15 Timeframe for operational process
CQ15 What time frame are you looking at before the project becomes operational ?
CA15 The plan is to have the full system with the Web site stage for on-going compliance completed
by 31/01/99. The OICY2KRAMP member system is now completed and we are seeking beta test
partners during February 1999 to evaluate that module. If you are interested please contact
Stevan GILLMORE (612) 9448-0390 or e-mail him.
CQ16 Validity of Y2K Due Diligence Compliance Certificate
CQ16 How valid is the certification ?
CA16 That is the question we are asking you to answer. If the process is complete and the messages
for Y2K failure sufficient, would you accept an OICY2KRAMP Due Diligence Certificate ?
CQ17 Letters from suppliers
CQ17 `Supply chain comments' box - what will happen in the case of 'ambiguous response'. What are
the next steps ?
CA17 Some areas require further in-depth evaluation. This is why we require more members on the
technical committees to refine these areas. In addition, a major issue that has to be considered is
Custom Written software products. If the supplier has gone out of business and there are a
number of clients that use that software but do not have access to the source code, what action
will the end-user take ? This is where the OIC can be of assistance by providing programming
expertise that may be able to assist remediate this software for all the users.
CQ18 What is the OICY2KRAMP engine
CQ18 What is the OICY2KRAMP database engine ?
CA18 There are 2 aspects to consider, namely:
1 the licensed system
2 the Web site system.
The prototype has been developed under Delphi 3 and the Web site system will be Oracle based
CQ19 What happens with custom-built software
CQ19 What happens with a custom-built database ?
CA19 You need to contact the developer and send a series of letters to confirm that the product is
compliant or will be made compliant in plenty of time. If the developer has gone out of business
then you will find it beneficial to be a member of the OIC
CQ20 Can custom-written software be remediated
Q20 Can that be remedied ?
A20 There is remediation software available for fixing custom-built applications. However
OICY2KRAMP Consultants are still evaluating several aspects of this remediation software
including the auditing process.
EQ FEES
EQ1 What is the cost of OICY2KRAMP
EQ1 What is the cost going to be ?
A1 The Management Committee is considering a fee of $ 3.00-$ 10.00 per seat per month depending
on the function of that seat. This will be for a 3 year contract. This will include telephone
support from OICY2KRAMP Consultants. It does not include visits from the OICY2KRAMP
member mentor. The fees for these visits will depend on the level of support required.
EQ2 Will the cost be sufficient to support all SMEs
EQ2 Is $10 per SEAT going to generate enough revenue, as most SMEs will only have 1-2 PCs ?
EA2 We may have to set a minimum fee perhaps $ 1,000 to cover the telephone support infrastructure.
The OICY2KCC will monitor the costs of support and usage. There will be circumstances which
will require special consideration. However all users of OICY2KRAMP will be considered as
members of the OIC. This may not include full member benefits see http://www.oic.org/1b.htm).
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