17:48 Fri 17 Sep 2004						REF:1UCACBR3

TO:	Duane NICKULL				cc	HIN Consultants
	Vice-Chair UN/CEFACT				OIC Management Committee

Duane - this is the third e-mail with some comments and suggestions
for the draft UN/CEFACT Vision - Global Trade Facilitiation.

R1 - What is the Problem ?

R2 - The UN and Ports

R3 - the UN/CEFACT slides - THIS E-MAIL

Thank you for sharing it with me.  I should have reviewed the slides before I sent the 
other two e-mails !

I really appreciate being able to read and understand both the objectives of the UN 
and UN/CEFACT and why we all need to work together to stand a chance to make the 
UN/CEFACT Vision a reality.

I also know the difficulty of finding time to proof-read slides so I have taken the 
liberty of proof-reading each slide and offering suggestions such as including a 
reference page for e-Business initials and simplifying some of the words 

Although the power-point presentation has not been distributed I am 
broadcasting this e-mail to our contacts so that they can appreciate the 
tremendous work carried out by UN/CEFACT and yourself and the enormous 
challenges that still lie ahead.

The draft Power-point Presentation has been placed on our web-site so that
you can review it. I will send you a separate e-mail with the URL.  That URL 
and Power-point presentation will not be distributed without your confirmation


The OIC has presentations on Thu 23 Sep and Thu 28 Oct and if you
were able to come to Australia on 28 Oct to release the UN/CEFACT Vision
for Oceania we would provide you with an enthusiastic audience.


There are 3 separate sections

A	"High Level Vision & Mandate" - should be widely distributed (9 excellent 
	slides) - everyone will understand this section

B	"Model Driven Design - Business Collaboration Framework (UMM ? - BCM ?)" - 
	I have made a comment on each slide - however this section may be for 
	IT people only

C	"Components for Global Trade"			Slides
	a	Technical Architecture			3	
	b	Registry				3
	c	Business Process			0	No slides
	d	Core Components				5	
	e	UN e-Docs				2	No examples
	f	UN Lay-out Keys				2	No examples
	g	Interoperability with Paper Trade	3	"Must Have" but no suggestions


It is the first time after over 15 years awareness of the UN and Global trade
that I have learned:

s3	The UN Charter 

s4	an understanding of the 6 United Nations Sub-group 

s5	that the role of the Sub-group 3 - The Economic & Social Council 		
	(UN/ECOSOC) - is to "promote economic growth and progress in the 	
	developing world" 

s6	that UN/CEFACT (United Nations Centre for Trade Facilitiation
	and Electronic Business) "supports activities dedicated to improving 
	the ability of business, trade and administrative organisations, from 		
	developed, developing and transitional economies, to exchange 
	products and relevants services effectively"

s7	UN/CEFACT Mission and Focus.  The Focus is very powerful 
	and my suggestions for S28 and s30 slide are to complement and
	support that Focus 
s8	 "Why we must integrate the Information Ecosystem - what we must do" is 
	a brilliant slide

s9	""Its Principal focus is on facilitating National and International
	Transactions" -  5 excellent points but point 3 "Promoting" is the 
	key - get that right and the rest will follow


This section appears to be for technical people

"Model Driven Design - Business Collaboration Framework (UMM  - possibly 
better to use BCM to avoid confusion)" - I have made a comment on each slide - 
however this section is really for IT people only

s11	Conceptual Model - Model Driven Approach

	There is a lot of good meat in this slide but most people will look at it
	in a glaze unless it is explained very clearly.  If there is going to be an 	
	audio- commentary sent out with the slides this will be a very important 	
	slide.  The slide will not have any impact without a audio--commentary or 
	good explanation by the speaker

s12	UN/CEFACT Modelling (one or two "ll"s ?) Methodology (UMM)
	( - so thats where UMM comes in)

	1	"Lexicon of an organisation" - organisation structure ?

	2	"Technology Agnostic" Technology Neutral ? Technology Independent ?

	3	"two main sets of artifacts" two complementary libraries - processes 
								and templates ?

s13	Additional Notes on UMM

	Modeler's should be Modelers (delete ' )(one "l" only)

s14	UMM extends from the Open EDI Reference Model

	Any chance of web links to the named Standards so that
	people can refer to them while in the slide ?

s16	Initials and words used in this presentation

	BIE		Business Information Entity
	ebXML		Electronic Business Extensible Markup Language
	MIG		Management Information Group
	OASIS		Oganisation for the Advancement of Structured Information Standards
	SOA		Service Oriented Architecture
	TC		Technical Committee
	TMG		Technical Management Group
	XML		Extensible Markup Language

16	a1/3		Technical Architecture

	"Need a newer architecture that accounts for electronic and paper trade 	

	Agreed - possibly RUBAC ?

s17	a2/3		Possible Conceptual View Technical Architecture

s18	a3/3		SOA Functional Service View

s19	b1/3		Registry

s20	b2/3		Meta Data Registry
			published in "artifacts" - can we have description "artifacts"

s21	b3/3		The Role of Global Registries (Capital G)

s22	c??		Business Process - no slides

s22	d1/5		Core Components

s23	d2/5		Why Core Components ?

s24	d3/5		What are Core Components ? 

			"date" selected as example but no explanation

s25	d4/5		Core Component Concepts

s26	d5/5		Core Component Build Business Messages at Design Time

			"Date" chosen as example  - appropriate to mention ISO 8601?

s27	e1/2		UNeDocs

s28	e2/2		No slide

			Suggest using Ships Manifest and Airway Bill as UNeDocs

s29	f1/2		UN Lay-out key

s30	f2/2		No slide

			Suggest identifying format with XML Codes for Ships 			
			Manifest and Airway Bills 

s31	g1/3		Interoperability with Paper Trade

s32	g2/3		Electronic to Paper to Electronic

			A "Must Have" Option

s33	g3/3		Using Bar Codes and readers to Bridge the gap

s34			UN Logo


Duane  - it is late on Fri and I want to get this off to you so that you 
can review it over the week-end.

I think the slides are a really excellent way to explain the UN/CEFACT

If you are able to come to Australia in Oct or November to release the 
UN/CEFACT Vision the OIC XML & E-commerce Special Interest group
may be pleased to:

1	host your presentation

2	place the slide show permanently on the OIC XZIG Web site

3	advise 40, 000 e-mail contacts in Asia and 100,000
	e-mail contacts World-wide of the UN/CEFACT Vision 2005


Stephen GOULD
Partner e-Projects
22:43 F 2004/09/17 Syd 2089 

Time and date has to be linked to a universal location code 
so that the time differences can be automatically calculated 
for e-commerce transactions 

E:	sggould@halisa.net
W:	SGG Expertise in E-commerce

On 10 Sep 04, at 9:42, Duane Nickull wrote:

> Stephen:
> I think that the UN is better equipped to deal with this issue.  I have 
> been working with UN/CEFACT for a while and recently got elected as vice 
> chair.  Attached is a "DRAFT" PPT explaining our vision.
> WRT one XML language, I respectfully submit that is flawed logic. 
>  Einstein once said "When solving a problem, you must use different 
> thinking than you did when you created the problem".  The problem is 
> that every single standard to date was designed with the notion that the 
> entire world should use one standard.  ebXML was and is still the only 
> infrastructure that is built on a premise that one standard for business 
> transactions will never work. 
> Duane

Revised: S: 07:03 Sat 29/12/2001 Syd 2089
F: 07:32 Sat 29/12/2001 Syd 2089
Who: sgg
Authorised: sgg
Created: 09:45 Tue 13/06/2000 Syd 2065
By: kmb
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